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amandajcooper
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11:02 pm Jan 07, 2007

I've stitched for years and have worked with 2 strand blended colours before but I have just purchased my first SQ patterns, including "Tropical harp and conch shells" and am rather daunted by the vast number of blended colours used for single stitches. As each row has masses of blended single stitches and the colour isn't used again for masses of rows (eg 8 rows), I can't park the thread, so how do I anchor the stitches and keep the back tidy and relatively flat? As they are blended colours I can't use the loop method to start stitches. The other SQ pattern I purchased, Cat in window by Hiroshige, looks decidedly easier to keep tidy despite many blended colours so I'll start with that pattern, but any advice on how to keep things tidy for the shell design would be welcome.
BarBaraPrz
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7:45 pm Jan 10, 2007

If there's only one stitch in a color, I come up in one corner, holding about 1/4" at the end of the thread underneath with my finger, cross over to the opposite corner, go down to the back and catch that tail end when I come up again and make the cross, then on the backside I weave it through the same as the start, sort of like a tassel... it sounds terribly complicated but it's not.
amandajcooper
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10:59 pm Jan 10, 2007

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Originally posted by BarBaraPrz
If there's only one stitch in a color, I come up in one corner, holding about 1/4" at the end of the thread underneath with my finger, cross over to the opposite corner, go down to the back and catch that tail end when I come up again and make the cross, then on the backside I weave it through the same as the start, sort of like a tassel... it sounds terribly complicated but it's not.


Yes, this is a method I've used but I'm not sure that the work will be very flat. For example, when there are 15 blended colours for 17 stitches in one row, and then 22 blended colours for 27 stitches in the next row (and so it goes on for the following 40 rows) with the possibility of parking for only 3 or 4 colours from row to row its hard to see how to minimize the thickness on the back. I guess I'll just have to do a trial run on a scrap of linen before starting.
Fabala
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3:41 pm Jan 11, 2007

I dont stitch strictly row by row, and that seems to help.

I will start with the color that is predominant (if there is one), and do ALL the stitches in that color for a large area. Generally they taper off in a couple of directions. Then I select the next most prevalent color and do the same.

I try not to "jump" across areas larger than 5 - 8 stitches, but it's a judgement call. Sometimes the jump to do a single stitch in an area is less thread than the leader and footer would be to anchor it before and after...
rifestitch
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2:08 pm Jan 12, 2007

I have an answer, but it is definitely not in the majority. I don't pay much attention to the back. But to qualify that, I don't use knots to anchor, and I do the tail tuck under itself or tuck under other available stitches, to keep the tails to a minimum. I park, or I follow one color all the way through - depends on the design. My goal is to have the mess on the back of consistent thickness throughout. I trim up loose ends when the whole thing is done - everything ought to be good and anchored by then!

I do know a woman in Spain whose work is the most meticulous I have ever seen; regardless of the design she does, you can almost not tell the difference between her fronts and backs - it takes a lot of looking. It's beautiful, to be sure, but that kind of attention to detail makes it more like work to me, and takes some of the joy (and therapy) out of the actual stitching! The backs of my work are a secret between me and my framer, and of all of the things I've framed over the years, messy backs have never been an issue.

Of course, I assume I will never work on an afghan! Laughing
stitcherfe
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10:30 pm Jan 12, 2007

I'm with you, rifestitch. Getting the front of the work to look it's best is enough challenge for me. I don't use knots, back stitch to start and end a colour on that colour if possible, and start with a loop when possible, but that is as far as it goes.

The work I'm doing right now has outline stitches on it, so, even if my cross-stitching is fairly tidy on the wrong side, the outlining messes it up.

I haven't done a Scarlet Quince pattern yet, but have looked at the two I have, and have noticed the colours change frequently. It will be a whole new way of stitching for me, and I'm looking forward to the challenge.

Happy Stitching! Laughing

Nancy.
Alanna
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10:26 am Jan 15, 2007

I'm with Fabala on this one: stitch predominant colours (gives you decent coverage to tuck your more fiddly bits into) and carry wherever necessary so long as the thread required does not exceed that to stop and start again.
Oh, and for all those single stitches, get yourself a Pako- it will CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!
Fabala
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12:00 pm Jan 15, 2007

quote:
Originally posted by Alanna
I... fiddly bits...


What's a fiddly?

quote:
Originally posted by Alanna
... a Pako...


Forget fiddly, what's a Pako???
rifestitch
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2:29 pm Jan 16, 2007

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Originally posted by Fabala
quote:
Originally posted by Alanna
... a Pako...


Forget fiddly, what's a Pako???


A Pako needle organizer, as seen here:
http://tinyurl.com/y7robe

I don't have one yet, just because with my current set-up (my half of the couch and my little corner), I have absolutely no where to put it to use it.
rifestitch
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2:34 pm Jan 16, 2007

quote:
Originally posted by Alanna
I'm with Fabala on this one: stitch predominant colours (gives you decent coverage to tuck your more fiddly bits into) and carry wherever necessary so long as the thread required does not exceed that to stop and start again.
Oh, and for all those single stitches, get yourself a Pako- it will CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!


That's how I do TW's - pick a section, pick the dominant symbol, and work my way through that whole color as far as I feel like taking it, then the next dominant, etc. I also do the backstitching as I get sections complete - the placement is easier if I just finished stitching it, I think.

Now, my SQ L&U - the very first stitch in the top left corner was all alone in that whole area of several 10x10 blocks! I had to do some creative anchoring for the first several colors I put in! (Sure hope that one corner doesn't fall out over the years Embarassed )
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