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tdobbs
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Joined: 21 Jan 2008
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Location: Kings Mountain,NC
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5:04 pm Feb 13, 2008

Hi...I was talking to Julie and Fenny about other company's patterns,specifically...HEAD,MYSTICSTITCH,
GOLDENKITE...and was wondering if anyone out there has done any of these and how they compare to SQ? I have looked at the freebies and to honest not very impressed with them. I don't have the time or resources to invest in projects that I don't particulary like...if you know what I mean...so I would like to invite you to share with me your thoughts on these other companies....I love the look of SQ's patterns love the price,love the layout of the patterns,the size of them, but not sure if I want to take the time to blend colors if the results are hard to see without blending....any help you can offer would be great...I am currently working on a HEAD Turandot design .
Thank you,
Tami Stitching
fenny
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Posts: 192
Location: Israel
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7:02 am Feb 14, 2008

Hi Tami. Can't compare Sad . But can tell you what I think about, blended colours. Do know of several painters, who just use the basic colours and do a lot of mixing paints, in order to get the special colours, which are not available in the shop.For me it's the same for the blended floss, the blending always gives it a special colour, which you can't buy.
The effect of blending is amazing and has a very special effect at the SQ charts. Very Happy, which makes them very special and unique.
Happy Stitching
sverzino
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Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 88
Location: St. Louis, MO
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9:23 am Feb 14, 2008

My thoughts...the first time I used blended colors was a L&L wedding annoucement. I was leary of blending at first & wasn't sure it was worth the extra time. Once the picture matures, it's a different story. The blending actually makes the picture much more beautiful because it adds the subtly to make it look more realistic and extra depth. Even a Dimenions Christmas Stocking I did last year had blending & adds more dimension (no pun intended) to the finished design. Long story short - any project is an investment of time & love; I'd much rather spend the time with blends than fighting speciality stitches. Blended colors add much more than those stitches do. Laughing
tdobbs
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Location: Kings Mountain,NC
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1:19 pm Feb 14, 2008

Thank you both for your input....I am artist -wanna be and understand the depth you can achieve with colored pencils....now the next question I have is do you complete the stitch at once or do half stitches and come back and finish off the stitch? Or does it matter?I have done some blending in L&L too but that was soooooooooooo long ago I forgot what it looked like and I know that I did half stitches because that's what I do...sorry for so many questions..... Embarassed
You'd think I'd never stitched before and have been doing so for about 20+ yrs off and on......
Tami
rifestitch
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Location: North of Atlanta
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10:06 am Feb 15, 2008

Well, I will tell you what I can, just because of those 4 big names, I've only stitched one, and that is my SQ. I have freebies from all, and have several GK and HaED on my lust list (an extreme wish list), though no Mystic Stitch pieces - they just do not appeal to me at all.

First, let me start by saying that I just don't know if you can do one of these large art pieces without using blends, unless of course you have every single fiber available on the planet at your disposal, and programmed into your software. The easiest example I can come up with is in your eveyday clothes; how many kinds of black fabric are out there? There is black with a blue cast, black with a red cast, black with a green cast, etc. Mixing them is a skill some people do not possess (or like DH, notice). Same with the blended threads; DMC will give you several shades of the same color, but sometimes you need that color with a different cast in order to match a particular pigment in a painting. So the blend comes in and does the work that the single thread, in all its variations, can't do.

That being said, please also understand that I pretty much learned this craft on Teresa Wentzler, the Queen of the Blended Needle - I had done 2 Paula Vaughn pieces as my first works, then jumped right into TW's Unicorn - the one on black, with blends and fractionals - so I do have a certain bias towards them, as I find designs (other than the monochromatic and variegated-thread samplers I do) without those elements to be too easy and I guess crude is the only word I can come up with.

I have it from very good sources that GK charts are of the same high quality that SQ has, and their charts are in a similar style to Meredith's large print charts. I do find them a bit pricey, myself, which is why I haven't gotten any - I don't dare lay out that kind of money unless I plan to start it upon arrival. Having seen a lot of those pieces done in their forum and gallery, I honestly don't think they put any more effort into them than SQ does, so am not real sure why the price difference is as much as it is - unless Meredith just isn't charging enough Wink And by that effort, don't take that wrong; I can only imagine the effort that goes into the tweaking to get these as detailed as they are. Anybody can buy software to do conversions, but it's the time you spend after that first run-through, adding colors, tweaking this area or that, keeping the details there and clear by clever use of color only, that sets these charts apart from some of the 10-a-day charters - miles apart. It takes a good eye, because, at this time (and hopefully forever), the human eye is way more accurate than any computer program, and just because the sw says it's good, the eye can see the details the machine can't. That sounded like it came from a Terminator movie, didn't it?? But it's true.

Now, as to HaED, I have recently added some of these to my lust list, too, when I discovered a Welsh artist who does some amazing Celtic art. I have to say, I really, really want to get one of these and give it a try, as I just don't know how they pull off the colors and details without blends, and not very high numbers of colors, either! But even more imprtant to me - if I can do any project 1-over-1, I am all in! Of course, like SQ and GK, these HaED have to be huge in stitch count to see the detail, and I would hate to start one and then be disappointed, but from everything I have ever read, if you start out with a good piece of artwork, they do come out very nice. It does concern me at the rate they churn them out, but then again, I have no idea how many people they have doing the conversions; it would have to be more than a lone Meredith or Marcus (at GK). I think some of the trouble I have seen people discuss is when they choose designs with people in them - actual people, not fairies or the like - and sometimes skintones come out a little weird; too orange, too yellow, whatever. That sounds like a sw issue to me, that the charter didn't take the time to adjust (also dependent on the monitor they used to chart).

To sum up (yeah, I know - finally!), I recommend that you definitely want to do a blended piece; a blend might look really weird when you put it in, but when you step back to what would be a normal viewing distance, you won't be able to find it, I promise. In its place will be something entirely different! A piece with blends will just, by its very nature, have so much more depth to it than can be possible on the same piece without blends. And believe me, I have seen some really crude conversions of the Lady & Unicorn tapestries, whereas the ones Meredith has done here are just exquisite - I only hope my finished project (many years from now) can do her work justice. I think it will, but I'm a long way from done.

And just as an aside, if you are interested in what my lust list looks like - and aren't on dial-up - you can see it in my Multiply; it is subject to change at any time without notice Wink
http://rifestitch.multiply.com/photos/album/12/Lust_List

Maybe I can enable you guys out of some of your hard-earned cash, too Smile Though I am on a strict stash diet this year, saving for my trip to the UK next year. But I can always go stroll through my list until I am sated Wink Wink Wink
fenny
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10:49 am Feb 15, 2008


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DMC will give you several shades of the same color, but sometimes you need that color with a different cast in order to match a particular pigment in a painting. So the blend comes in and does the work that the single thread, in all its variations, can't do.



You said it all. Laughing
Happy Stitching
rifestitch
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Location: North of Atlanta
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11:24 am Feb 15, 2008

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Originally posted by tdobbs
Thank you both for your input....I am artist -wanna be and understand the depth you can achieve with colored pencils....now the next question I have is do you complete the stitch at once or do half stitches and come back and finish off the stitch? Or does it matter?I have done some blending in L&L too but that was soooooooooooo long ago I forgot what it looked like and I know that I did half stitches because that's what I do...sorry for so many questions..... Embarassed
You'd think I'd never stitched before and have been doing so for about 20+ yrs off and on......
Tami



This only matters if you are using variegated thread, in which case, if you really want to show off the variegation (which is why you are using it, right?), then you do each X as you go. As for solid colors (single colors and blends), work them whatever way works best for you. Whenever possible, I like to go do the first pass /////, then come back and do the other pass \\\\\. Of course, this doesn't apply on my SQ, since it is almost 95% confetti stitching, so far Wink
tdobbs
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11:52 am Feb 15, 2008

Karen, all I can say is WOW....thank you for the feedback......really...I had all these thoughts myself....but don't have the exposure to these other sites patterns to say for sure...I have started and never finished so many patterns that you buy in a kit...that has been all I ever known where out there until this last month or so....I started looking on net to see what I wanted to get into and just googled cross stitch and .....Walah(spelling?)this whole new world has been opened to me ....then I went to your link ...and again.....another new world....I will need forever to finish all the patterns I see you have and btw want most of them myself...lol....some of those samplers towards the end of the list are awesome..what site are they from...I'm not familiar with SB&B?...I don't know if I posted here in this subject...but I went and got the floss I was missing for the SQ free Rose pattern and bobbins to try that one....I will buy one here as soon as I can figure out which one I want first......BIG PROBLEM....sooo many I want...lol.....I am kinda hoping that she will do the Tissot I soooo desire and I want a few of his...I don't have to win them. I will gladly buy them....(hint...hint)lol.....well I'm off to winding floss so I can stitch this weekend....Have a Wonderful Weekend ..all of you...
Tami
PS..Where in Atlanta are you?I'm not too far from you here in NC....
BarBaraPrz
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Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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12:12 pm Feb 15, 2008

Re: Rife's Lust List:

WOW!
rifestitch
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12:26 pm Feb 15, 2008

quote:
Originally posted by BarBaraPrz
Re: Rife's Lust List:

WOW!


Yeah, I'm a junkie. Pity me. NOT!

Of course, Not shown in there is threads and fabric Smile
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