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CathyG
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1:43 pm Mar 20, 2013

Hi,
Still have not ordered any fabric, having trouble making up my mind. Good thing I have other projects to work on.

I was wondering if anyone has done any of the Celtic Ladies? I am planning a gift but have not beaded a project before. I was wondering what is the highest count fabric I can get away with when there is a lot of beading? I don't want the project to be to huge but don't want the beading to be to tight.
Thanks for any help you can offer!!
rifestitch
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3:23 pm Mar 20, 2013

I HIGHLY suggest using 14/28ct - you can get away with some 16/32ct, but if you have a row of beads or a solid section, 16/32 MAY be a tight fit.

I put all of my Chatelaines on 28ct for this reason, and am currently doing an Ink Cirlces entirely in beads instead of floss, and am using a 28ct jobelan - they fit PERFECTLY!

I have a Joan Elliott fairy as a WIP, too, which is comparable to the Celtic Ladies, and I had the perfect color of fabric in the stash, at 32ct. I haven't put the beads on yet, but I am pretty sure I am going to have to fudge just a little bit, because I can tell the holes I've left for them are SMALL, though, to be fair, the fabric is a hand dyed piece, so the dyeing process does shrink it a bit - it's probably in reality around 34ct. I would have preferred to have that same piece of fabric in 28ct, but I am making myself make do with it - the Kreinik #4 that I am using for backstitching is also a very tight fit, over the stitching, on this 32ct - 28 would have helped there, too...

I did do one small Chatelaine on a 32ct standard-color (not hand dyed) fabric once, and while it wasn't my preference, I did get all the beads to fit okay. But 28 is my preference for anything that has more than 10 beads on it - and as my Chatelaines have THOUSANDS, there you go Smile

If you haven't beaded a piece before, I do suggest the 28ct, so you don't get frustrated with it - I LOVE BEADS, but too, I don't want to have to fight with them...

Which one are you thinking of starting? I have always loved the series, but have never done one, though one of these days, Spring or the Christmas one just might force their way into my stash Smile The colors in all of them are gorgeous, I just don't like stitching people, generally (says she of the Lady & Unicorn WIP)...
CathyG
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10:23 am Mar 22, 2013

Thank you so much. Good to know because I would have picked 32 and been very frustrated!
I am thinking about Spring to start with. My daughter wants something with the different seasons and she loves Celtic designs and I have wanted to do these for along time so I thought perfect gifts.
I have not planned out my own cross stitch, I mean I always followed the 'example was stitched on...'. That is why I am having such a time with deciding which fabric to order. With the Ladies I was thinking of getting something dyed with light color because there is so much empty space but I don't want to detract from the Ladies so I am not sure what to do. I would greatly appreciate some input.
rifestitch
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9:21 am Mar 26, 2013

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I have not planned out my own cross stitch, I mean I always followed the 'example was stitched on...'. That is why I am having such a time with deciding which fabric to order. With the Ladies I was thinking of getting something dyed with light color because there is so much empty space but I don't want to detract from the Ladies so I am not sure what to do. I would greatly appreciate some input.


I suggest a light green - purple really looks wonderful on green! If you want to go very basic, Waterlily jobelan (jobelan is my FAVORITE evenweave - is just feels nice, I try to put all of my Chatelaines on it).
http://www.123stitch.com/cgi-perl/itemdetail.pl?item=429-203Y (IF you can tell what it looks like from that eensy weensy swatch they give you Shocked ) Or you can see it in use on a project that's mostly blues up to now, my Tuscany Town Mandala, where i think you can tell it's really subtle: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rifestitch/8353626559/in/set-72157632454727370/

If you want just a bit more interest, maybe Morning Dew, Spring Garden, or Wandering Ivy from Silkweaver, in an evenweave instead of a linen, because the color & mottling is generally lighter in an evenweave compared to its linen equivalent - I have a piece of Wandering Ivy and a piece of Spring Garden, and both are a lot lighter than what is pictured, though every piece is different:
http://www.silkweaverfabrics.com/home/reflections

Picture This Plus has lots of lighter greens, too, though I am not as familiar with them - I have a lot of their darker colors. Chrysalis & Masquerade might be nice choices, if you are feeling adventurous Smile http://www.picturethisplus.com/store/categories.php?cat=8

I guess the first question I should have asked is, do you have a needlework shop you can go to to see any of these fabrics in, live in person? I have never had one close, so I've gotten good (or lucky, maybe) at picking things off of a computer screen over the years, but if you are unsure, it might be a little intimidating, for sure. I do think the Waterlily will be a great basic color for Celtic Spring. You could also go with a basic white or antique white, I think, if the light green doesn't do it for you. I do NOT like hte WIllow Green that is the suggested fabric for Spring - it's too yellow, and mutes the whole thing down a bit, but that's just me. And as old as the design is, Willow Green may be different today than it was when that chart was produced... YOu can also google for images of Celtic Spring, and you 'll get lost of hits from blogs and whatnot - some people may list what they've used, if you find one you really like....

Maybe this will help a little? Picking fabric is probably the hardest part, if you want to stray away from the model at all. It helps a lot if you have a shop that you can go to, with your floss, and actually do floss tosses, put your threads ON The fabrics to see if you like it, roughly. If, like me, you don't have a shop, you kind of have to take a leap of faith Smile And maybe someone here in the SQ forum has this done and can make soem other suggestions. Good luck and let us know what you find!
CathyG
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7:02 pm Apr 02, 2013

Karen I don't have a store near drat!
Spring Garden was one I thought of as a possibility. I agree with you about using a green. The problem I have is being afraid colors clashing, like getting a bright green when looking for a cool green. Like you said hard to tell in the tiny picture and then the colors on the screen are not always completely accurate.
They are so expensive I don't want to make a mistake. I know I will have to just knuckle down and order something.
Thank you for your time and suggestions.
BarBaraPrz
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11:51 am Apr 03, 2013

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The problem I have is being afraid colors clashing, like getting a bright green when looking for a cool green.

If you're feeling adventurous, you could dye white cloth to the shade you want. Or, if you order a green and it's too bright, you can do one of two things: put it through a mild bleach bath to lighten it or through a weak tea bath to dull it.
CathyG
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4:30 pm Apr 03, 2013

Thanks Barbara, that is something I was going to test out. Found a site where they used acrylics and I have a lot of them and can mix what ever colors I want. So I think I am going to take an old piece and just play. I think it will be the best way to be sure of my colors. Besides plain cloth is cheaper, so it is another plus, LOL
Fibreartist
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11:46 am Dec 10, 2013

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Originally posted by CathyG
Hi,
Still have not ordered any fabric, having trouble making up my mind. Good thing I have other projects to work on.

I was wondering if anyone has done any of the Celtic Ladies? I am planning a gift but have not beaded a project before. I was wondering what is the highest count fabric I can get away with when there is a lot of beading? I don't want the project to be to huge but don't want the beading to be to tight.
Thanks for any help you can offer!!


Cross post to your other entry:

I have these ladies on my list of to do's. Do you have a lot of fabric on hand? Or will you be ordering it from somewhere. I remember one of the hand dyed fabric sites let you superimpose the pattern over the samples so you could get an idea of what the finished project would look like.


This is a really good site and this page gives you an idea of what a project would look like on the different fabrics they do:
http://www.silkweaverfabrics.com/home/showcase

Did you ever do what's called a "floss toss"? That's what I do to audition possible fabrics for my projects. Especially important with the Mirabilia and Lavender and Lace ones because of the negative space. Just pull all the colors that you are going to need for the pattern and lay out your fabric and lay out the colors on top. You will be able to see right away which fabric the colors show up the best on. That's how I do it. Hope this has helped you
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