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gladobe1952
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Help, not happy with framers job.     Reply with quote  
 
 
6:56 pm May 29, 2013

I just finished a Claude Monet White Water Lillies. It took me a year of non stop stitching to get this done. It was by far the most complex I have ever done.
It is a wedding gift, sooo I took it to the framers and I think I can see "lines" in the picture. Perhaps where the q snap frame was, or where the backside had more depth of threads crossing. There are quite few on them, and the q snap frame wouldn't have been so close together.
The framer took it apart but said there is nothing that can be done. It is stretched tight and just not to hang it in a bright side light as that is when it shows the most.
I thought perhaps a foam cushion on the piece that it is stretched over would help even it out.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me either to fix this picture or prevent it from happening in the future.
I have done many cross stitch pictures in the past but I must admit this was the most challenging for colour changes.

Thanks for any and all help
Debbie
rifestitch
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Joined: 16 May 2005
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Location: North of Atlanta
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9:05 am May 31, 2013

Without seeing the problem in person, I can only make a couple of guesses.

My first question is: did you stitch the piece in blocks comprised of straight lines, such as doing a 10x10 section at a time?

The reason I ask this is, I have read that sometimes doing 10x10 (or something similar) CAN create lines or a checkerboard effect on the finished piece, but if you have irregular lines (such as when you follow-the-symbol stitch) or complete sections on an angle instead of straight lines, you don't get those lines. I have never actually seen this checkerboard effect, but I've heard about it several times, from varying sources, so it must be a common occurrence. I assume it has to do with tension; again, I've never seen it, so not really sure how it happens, but too many people have mentioned it for it to be a falsehood.

My second question is, after you finished stitching, did you wash your piece, and/or iron it? I steam-iron EVERYTHING when I am done, because I do mangle my pieces in QSnaps, even my silk pieces that don't get washed. But I do turn everything face down on a nice thick towel, and steam iron the entire thing, though I do go easy over silks & metallics, paying much more attention to the unstitched fabric. If the whole piece is DMC, I really go over it all, until I am confident that I've gotten out all wrinkles. If the piece is stretched properly, any wrinkles in the piece should be gone. Uneveness on the back wouldn't cause "lines", I don't believe, but more like puckers or dips, maybe? Does that make sense?

Again, with this checkerboard thing, from what I have read, stretching doesn't affect it, it's entirely related to the stitching itself, so this may be your issue. It's hard to say without actually seeing it.

I hope you find the answer - please share it with us if you do! Also, keep in mind, we are more critical of our own work, with which we are often the only ones who are up close & personal with it, so the recipient of your lovely work probably won't notice anything that sticks out to you; I am sure they will be overwhelmed with your gift!
gladobe1952
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2:26 pm May 31, 2013

Thanks for you tips. I stitched the picture in the pages of the pattern, but that is not the size of the lines, now are the spaced where the q-snaps would have been. From what I can tell it seems like there is just not as much "depth" to the carried over colours in the back. I did iron the piece when finished but it seems to be more noticeable in the first sections that I did. It is a wedding gift and I will be very upset it the bride and groom can see the lines. They picked out the picture, and I sure hope that after a years work they are happy with it.
Thanks again for you tips, they were very helpful.
plr1340plr
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Monet's Water Lillies     Reply with quote  
 
 
11:09 pm Jun 01, 2013

quote:
Originally posted by gladobe1952
Thanks for you tips. I stitched the picture in the pages of the pattern, but that is not the size of the lines, now are the spaced where the q-snaps would have been. From what I can tell it seems like there is just not as much "depth" to the carried over colours in the back. I did iron the piece when finished but it seems to be more noticeable in the first sections that I did. It is a wedding gift and I will be very upset it the bride and groom can see the lines. They picked out the picture, and I sure hope that after a years work they are happy with it.
Thanks again for you tips, they were very helpful.


Debbie, By all means DO NOT have your piece remounted over foam. It will disintegrate over time--not too long a time, either--and permanently stain the piece. Try having it mounted over a piece of polyfil-type quilt batting (thin). This may help. If rewashing and reblocking and this doesn't help, I'm afraid you're stuck. But first, I'd ask a third party to look at the piece and critique it for you. They, because of their distance to the process of the project, may not even see the lines. If that's the case, your young couple wouldn't see it either. Is it mounted behind glass? Sometimes that helps disguise flaws. Best of luck on what must truly be a beautiful piece of work.
Live long and prosper, Pamn (seashell)


Debbie, next time cut yourself some pieces of white craft felt the length of each q-snap clamp by about 4 inches high. Put these on your fabric before the clamp to cushion your stitches. Pamn

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gladobe1952
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10:08 am Jun 02, 2013

[quote="plr1340plr"][quote="gladobe1952"]Thanks for you tips. I stitched the picture in the pages of the pattern, but that is not the size of the lines, now are the spaced where the q-snaps would have been. From what I can tell it seems like there is just not as much "depth" to the carried over colours in the back. I did iron the piece when finished but it seems to be more noticeable in the first sections that I did. It is a wedding gift and I will be very upset it the bride and groom can see the lines. They picked out the picture, and I sure hope that after a years work they are happy with it.
Thanks again for you tips, they were very helpful.[/quote]

Debbie, By all means DO NOT have your piece

Thanks for you advice. The piece is framed and most people haven't noticed the lines, so I may leave it as is. The idea of foam was because one of my wool needlepoints was done that way, but perhaps it was batting used. I don't fee confident to re-frame it but I will keep that in mind for next time.
plr1340plr
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11:17 am Jun 02, 2013

[quote="gladobe1952"]
quote:
Originally posted by plr1340plr
quote:
Originally posted by gladobe1952
Thanks for you tips. I stitched the picture in the pages of the pattern, but that is not the size of the lines, now are the spaced where the q-snaps would have been. From what I can tell it seems like there is just not as much "depth" to the carried over colours in the back. I did iron the piece when finished but it seems to be more noticeable in the first sections that I did. It is a wedding gift and I will be very upset it the bride and groom can see the lines. They picked out the picture, and I sure hope that after a years work they are happy with it.
Thanks again for you tips, they were very helpful.


Debbie, By all means DO NOT have your piece

Thanks for you advice. The piece is framed and most people haven't noticed the lines, so I may leave it as is. The idea of foam was because one of my wool needlepoints was done that way, but perhaps it was batting used. I don't fee confident to re-frame it but I will keep that in mind for next time.
laraine
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Joined: 31 Aug 2010
Posts: 45
Location: Carlsbad, NM
Re: Help, not happy with framers job.     Reply with quote  
 
 
5:55 pm Jun 04, 2013

quote:
Originally posted by gladobe1952
I just finished a Claude Monet White Water Lillies. It took me a year of non stop stitching to get this done. It was by far the most complex I have ever done.
It is a wedding gift, sooo I took it to the framers and I think I can see "lines" in the picture. Perhaps where the q snap frame was, or where the backside had more depth of threads crossing. There are quite few on them, and the q snap frame wouldn't have been so close together.
The framer took it apart but said there is nothing that can be done. It is stretched tight and just not to hang it in a bright side light as that is when it shows the most.
I thought perhaps a foam cushion on the piece that it is stretched over would help even it out.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me either to fix this picture or prevent it from happening in the future.
I have done many cross stitch pictures in the past but I must admit this was the most challenging for colour changes.






ON YOUR NEXT PIX CROSS STITCH ENGLISH STYLE COMPLETE EACH X BEFORE GOING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. LARAINE

Thanks for any and all help
Debbie
gladobe1952
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Re: Help, not happy with framers job.     Reply with quote  
 
 
6:45 pm Jun 04, 2013

[quote="laraine"][quote="gladobe1952"]I just finished a Claude Monet White Water Lillies. It took me a year of non stop stitching to get this done. It was by far the most complex I have ever done.
It is a wedding gift, sooo I took it to the framers and I think I can see "lines" in the picture. Perhaps where the q snap frame was, or where the backside had more depth of threads crossing. There are quite few on them, and the q snap frame wouldn't have been so close together.
The framer took it apart but said there is nothing that can be done. It is stretched tight and just not to hang it in a bright side light as that is when it shows the most.
I thought perhaps a foam cushion on the piece that it is stretched over would help even it out.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me either to fix this picture or prevent it from happening in the future.
I have done many cross stitch pictures in the past but I must admit this was the most challenging for colour changes.






ON YOUR NEXT PIX CROSS STITCH ENGLISH STYLE COMPLETE EACH X BEFORE GOING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. LARAINE

Thanks for any and all help
Debbie[/quote][/quote]

I could try that, but I don't see how that would change the problem. It is still a matter of many colour changes.
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