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TGR
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3:44 pm Mar 01, 2012

any tips for framing my masterpiece.. Very Happy MidSummers eve (picts to follow shortly as i am 95% finished)... and looking forward to the completion of the framing process... I have questions like:

* type of board to mount fabric
*any special hints for attaching fabric to mount board
*frame ideas
*to matt or not to matt

any help would be GREAT
Divecat
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10:37 am Mar 03, 2012

Hi TGR

Welcome to SQ!

I noticed you had a lot of looks but no posts, so I thought I'd put my two penneth in.

I personally am not adept at framing at all, so I have found a great framer who does it locally. I know this can double the cost of the whole stitching project, but this guy can do it a whole lot better than me!

I know there are several board members who do frame themselves, so hopefully they'll stop by soon to offer some more practical advice.

Looking forward to seeing your update pictures.

Best wishes - Christine Stitching
rifestitch
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12:50 pm Mar 06, 2012

I do some of my own framing these days, simple, smaller pieces - purely due to the fact that having it done at a framer is EXPENSIVE. Here are a few things to take into consideration if planning to do your own:

1) Acid Free Foam Core - I do NOT recommend that awful sticky mounting board, I've seen projects that were put on that years later, and they have a tendency to be discolored, pulled away when the adhesive gives out, and generally not very lasting.

2) Pin or Lace - this is how you need to decide how to mount your piece onto the foam core. Some people have a huge issue with pinning, for fear of the pins rusting. In my experience a) most straight pins are of stainless steel so won't rust (even says so on the package), and b) even living in a high humidity area, how much moisture is your piece REALLY going to come into contact with? Unless you hang it in the bathroom where your teenage sons take 2 twenty-minute showers a day, I think this is pretty minimal. Lacing takes a bit of practice (you can find several tutorials online) and eliminates the need of pins, though many will pin the piece to position it, get it laced, then remove the pins. Personally, I use both - I pin the whole thing, and then, if I have a large bulk of fabric on the backside, I will often lace it to keep it laying neat, even though I will cover the back with brown paper.

3) Matting OR a spacer - which depends of if you are putting glass in the frame. IF you use glass, you do NOT want the glass to sit right on the stitching, so either matting or frame spacer should be used. If you aren't using glass, then to mat or not is entirely your choice. You MAY need extra fabric to get the piece mounted if you mat - the foam core will be the same size as the mat, which will be X inches wider all around then the finished piece. Not a big deal, though, you can easily sew a piece of muslin along the edge of your fabric to give you something to stretch around the foam core.

4) The frame itself is again personal choice/style - there is no right or wrong frame, if that's what you are asking? I don't know where you are, but I do have a couple of online frame shops that I use:
Frames By Mail: http://www.framesbymail.com/
Picture Frames: http://www.pictureframes.com/scripts/WebObjects/PictureFrames.woa/wa/Home

I have used Frames By Mail the most often, and am reasonably happy with their services. They are a tad more affordable, too, and if you sign up for their e-mails, they have frequent sales on some things. I also buy open-back frames from Hobby Lobby and places like that, though more often than not, my pieces don't fit standard sizes....

Hope this helps a bit, gives you a jumping-off spot Smile
emmadragon
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5:49 am Mar 09, 2012

1) Acid Free Foam Core - I do NOT recommend that awful sticky mounting board, I've seen projects that were put on that years later, and they have a tendency to be discolored, pulled away when the adhesive gives out, and generally not very lasting.

I second this, although I use acid free mount board instead of foam core. Foam core makes the whole thing very thick, and it can be hard to find a frame with a rebate (the bit the glass and picture sit in) deep enough. I have some pieces that I had framed for me some years ago and the framer used sticky mount board, much to my disgust, and they now all need washing and re-mounting to get rid of the sticky residue and remove the wrinkles.

2) Pin or Lace - this is how you need to decide how to mount your piece onto the foam core.

I lace - crochet cotton is ideal for this, it's nice and strong. Lacing is the thing that takes the most time, but it is worth the effort. It'll take me about an hour to lace a really big piece. Pinning it first to get it straight is also worthwhile. I generally lace it tight enough to very slightly bow the board so that when it's flattened in a frame, it gives a nice smooth surface.

3) Matting OR a spacer - which depends if you are putting glass in the frame. IF you use glass, you do NOT want the glass to sit right on the stitching, so either matting or frame spacer should be used.

I always use glass to protect my stitching. I don't recommend acrylic, it's too easy to scratch and scuff. I also always use a mount, and sometimes two if there's beading. If you look at my Bird of God in the gallery, I framed that myself with two mounts, just because it looked better that way.

4) Frames - If it's something I've put a lot of work into, I'll get a custom frame made, (see BoG again) and they'll usually do a mount to fit, if you ask. I can't give you any online recommendations for that, because I'm in the UK so I use UK suppliers. For smaller things, I'll just use a frame from our equivalent of Hobby Lobby (or the local 5 cent store, I'm not fussed about where it comes from). If you do that, though, check the way the frame is put together carefully. Some frames have space for pictures to just slide in - you won't get a stitched piece in that space - you need the frames with little metal tabs holding the back board in place. I also recommend getting some acid free brown paper tape to seal the back of the framing. I'm pretty sure that you can get that from Hobby Lobby, too. I believe that either Hobby Lobby or Jo-Anns will cut mounts and glass to fit for a small fee, too.

Good luck! Framing is not especially difficult, but it is time-consuming, and of course, that is why it's so expensive to have done professionally.

Emma.
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TGR
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10:23 am Mar 12, 2012

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Originally posted by TGR
any tips for framing my masterpiece.. Very Happy MidSummers eve (picts to follow shortly as i am 95% finished)... and looking forward to the completion of the framing process... I have questions like:

* type of board to mount fabric
*any special hints for attaching fabric to mount board
*frame ideas
*to matt or not to matt

any help would be GREAT


UPDATE:

thank you all for your advise... i have much to consider... I will begin with mounting the piece.. however, i think i have decided to have it custom framed, without the matte using spacers and glass... i have taken a pict and hopefully it can be added to the gallery soon..

@ Karen & Emma- thank you for you vote of confidence and tips.. i think i will lace, and i fully expect to pull it all out several times before getting the hang of it.. Embarassed Hopefully when i get my piece finished, the framed piece will be an excellent example of how MY work will eventually look, however, the number of skill i must have to complete are numerous, so I will concentrate on the mounting skill first.. Your skilled advise and consideration to take the time to help me, is touching... and I will repay in full to some other wayward soldier one day.

Seperately, i have MANY old crosstitch projects that i have not framed in many years.. i am looking forward to perfecting my mounting skills by completing some projects from the 'old' days... Smile Stitching
checkd
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9:42 am Mar 17, 2012

All remarks here are re mounting on foam or other board. Does anyone use / recommend stretching and affixing the fabric, e.g. with tacks, to stretchers, and using the stretched fabric as the mount to be framed? Question
TGR
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2:52 pm May 23, 2012

thanks to everyone for the advice.. Laughing .. i have completed the framing and have posted a picture of MidSummers Eve in the gallery... fully framed.. after all that, i decided to go with a professional framer and overall i am esctatic with the results..

Everyone who see it is in awe.. and even my dad.. said .. 'thats pretty, who did it'.. i told him ME.. i just had it framed.. he repeated himself three times total... and finally said.. 'i know that.. but WHO did the painting ???'.. . Very Happy it was the ultimate compliment, (he always was quite the charmer)

finally, i plan to enter it into the needlecraft portion of our county fair... will update the gallery in october... as to the results
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