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I am REALLY Hacked! Copyright Violators


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rifestitch
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8:26 am Apr 24, 2009

You know, if you've ever visited my Multiply pages, and looked at an album, you might have noticed that I have a big note posted on top of all my XS albums:
"Note: Please do not ask me to send charts to you electronically; I respect and adhere to copyright laws, and in so doing, to send you an electronically reproduced chart would put me and you in violation of those laws. Now, if you want to make a fair trade, one for another, via snail mail, well, you know how to find me - I'm always up for a good trade (so long as you're not in a hurry - me getting to the post office is often quite a scheduling feat :b)."

And the last bit about trading one for another when I'm done, via snail mail, is only there in an attempt to not come of as a complete ogre. Which I am, usually Evil or Very Mad

At any rate, I'll be darned if someone didn't PM me, once again, asking for a copy of Lady & Unicorn!!!! And as is usual, it came from an Eastern European, previously-Soviet, country (every request for a chart I have ever gotten online has come from behind the old iron curtain - and there have been several) - and the English was perfect, so either she has a really, really good translator, or she understands perfectly well - but likely just didn't read.

So I not-too-politely declined to send her the chart - told her to buy it, actually, just like I did. I also told her to not contact me again, and reported her to Multiply - if she's asking me, she's asking others, with zero regard for the laws. I looked through her pages and pages of photos, and thankfully, she does NOT have any scanned charts up - which I was fully expecting (and more often than not find when I do a bit of poking around) - but she has albums and albums of "Looking For", and many have responses that have either been deleted or I can't read. But, she also has lots of nice work, which is sad, because now I wonder if all of her charts she's done are thieved, which makes me sad - I like to think of needlework as a noble pursuit, which of course is an antiquated notion, but still, that's how I think of it, and anyone serious about it should be supporting what is right.

Man, I don't get it - why do so many people think it's okay???? I just can't account for it in upbringing....

Okay, getting off the soap box now - just wanted to vent where I figured you guys would completely understand Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching Stitching
BarBaraPrz
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9:18 am Apr 24, 2009

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Originally posted by rifestitch

Okay, getting off the soap box now - just wanted to vent where I figured you guys would completely understand


We undertsand, totally. Now, have a nice cup of tea, lay down, and get your blood pressure under control.
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Julie T
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Location: Eugene, Oregon
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1:28 am Apr 25, 2009

Ditto. We do understand. Your rant was totally justified. What gets me is this need to have everything, and for free. We are on a limited budget, so I can't order all the goodies I would like (as if any of us has unlimited money to supply our hobbies), but charts are not all that expensive. It's not like they cost hundreds! I don't get it either.
divinenanny
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3:42 am Apr 27, 2009

Not only that, but if you take into account time spent stitching, and money spent on materials, I cannot believe you cannot save up the couple of bucks patterns cost, even Merediths....
Lisa_R
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6:13 pm Apr 30, 2009

I visit another forum and someone has been copying members' photos of their completed Heaven and Earth Designs and passing them off as her own. She even had the temerity to complain when she was banned from the HAED forum and wrote some dreadfully abusive posts. Apparently this has now led HAED to stop their reward system (a freebie for every completed design).
What a despicable creature she is Mad
sverzino
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7:24 pm Apr 30, 2009

Now that REALLY takes the cake! That's another US English expression. I just hope I never encounter one of these characters....just can't relate. Rolling Eyes
rifestitch
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7:29 am May 01, 2009

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Originally posted by Lisa_R
I visit another forum and someone has been copying members' photos of their completed Heaven and Earth Designs and passing them off as her own.


I think I heard about that - doesn't it just amaze you the lengths people will go to to get something for free??? Okay, call me lazy, but isn't it just way easier to just PayPal $15 than to hunt out a photo, pass it along, and hope like hell no one catches you in it??? Maybe I'm just not a very good liar (though I was a decent - player way back in a previous life Evil or Very Mad ).

I have always wondered how the companies that only distribute electronic charts really combat the copyright issues. I guess really, they can't except one case at a time, which takes away from their designing time Sad Martina Weber of Chatelaine (you know those ginormous charts I have become addicted to Wink ) is always coming across stuff with hers, and often tries to come up with new ways to protect her zip files - which I hope helps her as much as it hinders the non-tech-savvy people who can't figure out how to get the charts they pay for; it seems to always be a case of 6 of one, half-dozen of another. (Yes, Alanna, that's another amuricanism, for" win some, lose some" Smile)

There's no perfect system anymore, especially when the tech is available to everyone. Makes me wonder if I need to take all my photos off my sites, photoshop my copyright onto them, thus obscuring the photo, before putting them back up. Maybe if I had hours and hours and hours with nothing better to do - but have you seen my WIP pile lately??? Holy cow - if there's a WIP-alanche, I'm a goner!

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fenny
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9:09 am May 01, 2009

The nerve some people have, this is terrible.
Will never understand these people!!!
Can only hope the designers will find a way to protect their patterns, which have so much work in them!
kiwidutch
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4:07 pm Apr 13, 2010

quote:
Originally posted by Lisa_R
I visit another forum and someone has been copying members' photos of their completed Heaven and Earth Designs and passing them off as her own. She even had the temerity to complain when she was banned from the HAED forum and wrote some dreadfully abusive posts. Apparently this has now led HAED to stop their reward system (a freebie for every completed design).
What a despicable creature she is Mad


How low can some people go? I agree totally that this is despicable.
I've had people ask for various patterns before too, and each time have tried to diplomatically explain that if people don't support patterns designers by buying the patterns then there will be no new patterns. Then I add that it's not a good idea because it's also dishonest and violates copyright. Most people get the message, and are good about it but a few got really upset and angry that I wasn't "sharing".
( actually I don't call it "sharing" I call it what it is: theft...)

But to actually pass off someone elses finished work as your own... WOW... that let me speechless, and disgusted. Shocked Shocked Shocked
gillsuth7s
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3:00 pm Apr 19, 2010

Hi all,

Thought I'd add my two penny'sworth(Brit-speak)...the person who goes to such lengths to rip off/plagiarise others' work, are the same people who steal identities by hacking into websites and steal the bank details, names, whatever, and reproduce credit cards to effect fraud and theft. It's a big business and very profitable to the gangs of people running such schemes. If only such dedication, organisation, etc could be applied to legitimate enterprise! They rely on getting away with a lot before being caught out. If done on a large scale, it eventually becomes worth it.

Those of us who are honest don't think in this perverse way, and we pay for what we want, and have a clear conscience. Those who think the world owes them a living will always want something for nothing, and feel themselves hard done by when they can't get it.

I think, ladies and gents, that the only way for photos etc to be viewed online, is to have a visible watermark running through the image so that when copied, so is the watermark. Only when legitimately bought,and downloaded, will the image come through unblemished.

Gill Stitching Stitching Stitching Very Happy
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