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armywife
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10:25 pm Mar 02, 2012

[quote="laraine"]I KEEP READING WHERE YOUR GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT FINISHING A PAGE ON OR PAGE SUCH AND SUCH. IF YOU WORK ONE PAGE AT A TIME DOES IT SHOW UP ON YOUR WORK? I HAVE BEEN DOING LINE ONE ON ALL 5 OF THE FIRST PAGES AND THEN GOING TO LINE 2 OF ALL FINE PAGES WORKING LEFT TO RIGHT AND COMPLETEING EACH ROW BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT ROW BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE YOU DID EACH PAGE IF YOU DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND COMPLE THE ROW BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SECOND ROW? IT IS A LOT OF TROUBLE TO KEEP CHANGEING MY PAGES AND IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF I COULD FINISH EACH PAGE BEFORE I HAD TO GET OUT ANOTHER ONE BUT I WAS TOLD IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE FINISHED WORK. YOU CAN SEE MY COMPLETED PROMISE IN THE GALLERY LARAINE
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Laraine,
I am certainly not the expert on here, but I follow the color/symbol vs going row by row. That would drive me nuts! As for the pages, I am a little afraid of stopping at the edge of the page, so what I do is continue on with that particular color/symbol over into the bordering page. Many people on here do a page at a time, though, and don't seem to have any trouble.

Best of luck!
Pam

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Patricia
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Location: Florida and Ontario
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8:03 am Mar 03, 2012

[quote="armywife"]
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Originally posted by laraine
I KEEP READING WHERE YOUR GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT FINISHING A PAGE ON OR PAGE SUCH AND SUCH. IF YOU WORK ONE PAGE AT A TIME DOES IT SHOW UP ON YOUR WORK? I HAVE BEEN DOING LINE ONE ON ALL 5 OF THE FIRST PAGES AND THEN GOING TO LINE 2 OF ALL FINE PAGES WORKING LEFT TO RIGHT AND COMPLETEING EACH ROW BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT ROW BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE YOU DID EACH PAGE IF YOU DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND COMPLE THE ROW BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SECOND ROW? IT IS A LOT OF TROUBLE TO KEEP CHANGEING MY PAGES AND IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF I COULD FINISH EACH PAGE BEFORE I HAD TO GET OUT ANOTHER ONE BUT I WAS TOLD IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE FINISHED WORK. YOU CAN SEE MY COMPLETED PROMISE IN THE GALLERY LARAINE
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Laraine,
I am certainly not the expert on here, but I follow the color/symbol vs going row by row. That would drive me nuts! As for the pages, I am a little afraid of stopping at the edge of the page, so what I do is continue on with that particular color/symbol over into the bordering page. Many people on here do a page at a time, though, and don't seem to have any trouble.

Best of luck!
Pam

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Yes,That i what I do too. At most I have only two other pages to look at, and that is only one at a time if the symbol carries over to the next page. I don't seem to leave any definite lines.
Divecat
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10:31 am Mar 03, 2012

Hi Laraine

Here is my method for working an SQ piece:

Finally, after 4 years, I have achieved a kind of rhythm for Ehret, which is to work two colums together, but ensure I work all the symbols in column one first so that there is always overlap between the two columns. When the first column is done, I work columns two and three, working all the remaining symbols in column two first - it feels like you're actually getting something done in a short(ish) timescale doing it this way and with a piece this big, you need to have some short term goals. I also make sure there is some overlap between vertically to ensure that horizontal lines don't appear. You can see where I changed my method half way through row 4 of Ehret here: http://divecat.multiply.com/photos/album/19/2011_-_Ehret_die_Frauen#photo=18

When I am working on the last column on the page, I photocopy the following page and sellotape it to the current one, ensuring the pattern is lined up of course Laughing. This means you don't get an 'end of page' line in the front of your work (I found this is more noticeable with lighter threads) and you don't get a bulkiness in the backside of the stitching at the page joins.

I am of the follow-the-symbol variety of stitcher rather than doing it line by line.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes - Christine x
laraine
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11:31 am Mar 04, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by Divecat
Hi Laraine

Here is my method for working an SQ piece:

Finally, after 4 years, I have achieved a kind of rhythm for Ehret, which is to work two colums together, but ensure I work all the symbols in column one first so that there is always overlap between the two columns. When the first column is done, I work columns two and three, working all the remaining symbols in column two first - it feels like you're actually getting something done in a short(ish) timescale doing it this way and with a piece this big, you need to have some short term goals. I also make sure there is some overlap between vertically to ensure that horizontal lines don't appear. You can see where I changed my method half way through row 4 of Ehret here: http://divecat.multiply.com/photos/album/19/2011_-_Ehret_die_Frauen#photo=18

When I am working on the last column on the page, I photocopy the following page and sellotape it to the current one, ensuring the pattern is lined up of course Laughing. This means you don't get an 'end of page' line in the front of your work (I found this is more noticeable with lighter threads) and you don't get a bulkiness in the backside of the stitching at the page joins.

I am of the follow-the-symbol variety of stitcher rather than doing it line by line.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes - Christine x

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rifestitch
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12:25 pm Mar 06, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by laraine
I KEEP READING WHERE YOUR GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT FINISHING A PAGE ON OR PAGE SUCH AND SUCH. IF YOU WORK ONE PAGE AT A TIME DOES IT SHOW UP ON YOUR WORK? I HAVE BEEN DOING LINE ONE ON ALL 5 OF THE FIRST PAGES AND THEN GOING TO LINE 2 OF ALL FINE PAGES WORKING LEFT TO RIGHT AND COMPLETEING EACH ROW BEFORE GOING TO THE NEXT ROW BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE YOU DID EACH PAGE IF YOU DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND COMPLE THE ROW BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SECOND ROW? IT IS A LOT OF TROUBLE TO KEEP CHANGEING MY PAGES AND IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF I COULD FINISH EACH PAGE BEFORE I HAD TO GET OUT ANOTHER ONE BUT I WAS TOLD IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE FINISHED WORK. YOU CAN SEE MY COMPLETED PROMISE IN THE GALLERY LARAINE


I have heard this, too - not just the page, but also from ones who have worked a 10x10 block at a time who end up with a checkerboard effect. There are actually a few discussions in here on it, if you dig back a ways.

I have never seen this, and am not sure how the effect is achieved, but I've heard too many people say they've done it; I don't know if it's an issue of tension from one area to the next? I have had straight lines at page breaks on my works before, and have never been able to see that line when the other side is filled in, though to be honest, I don't really have those lines often, as I will put up the next page if I still have thread in the needle for a certain color and it carries on to the next page. You can see a prime example of me doing that very thing on my most recent update to Lady & Unicorn: http://rifestitch.multiply.com/photos/photo/102/14

Personally, it would drive me NUTS to do one line all the way across on anything like a SQ or HAED - that's a LOT of work, and how many lines before you SEE anything? Now, maybe if you are parking, this wouldn't be so bad. But since I will very likely never use parking again to any extent (after having given up on it after 18 months of struggling with this same L&U years ago) - for me, a follow-the-symbol stitcher, nope, I'd lose interest in it pretty quick...

I even start many designs in the middle (TWs especially) just so I can move in a different direction if I get bored with a section - my The Castle I worked in a kind of spiral, actually, starting in the middle, working right, down, left, up & over Smile Although I would never start one of these BIG pieces in the middle; they just kind of need to be worked left to right, top to bottom (or even the reverse for many lefties or those who prefer working from the bottom up ).
emmadragon
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5:28 am Mar 09, 2012

IF YOU WORK ONE PAGE AT A TIME DOES IT SHOW UP ON YOUR WORK?

I work solidly on one page until it is finished, and then move onto the next, and I have never experienced this. I have heard of it, and I think it is a tension issue. If you keep your fabric really taut when you're working on it, and have even stitching tension, it shouldn't arise. One thing I do do, though, is to make sure that I start the next page before I put anything away for a while. You can see this on my Circe and my Bird of God in the gallery. I'm also a cross country stitcher - I tried parking with Bird, and got into a terrible mess. You can't really tell, because I managed to fudge it, but I missed one column in the middle because I had missed one stitch while parking (ONE stitch!) and didn't notice until I'd done another week's worth of work.
cmthmpsn
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Location: Ontario, Oregon, USA
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11:32 am Jun 22, 2012

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Originally posted by Patricia
quote:
Originally posted by JenniferHightree
Hello hello! I actually do this as well, since I havent yet purchased additional dowels for my frame. It works fine for me so far Smile

Thanks for lettimg me know. New for me but not for others. Wish I had of thought of this before I started Ehret. It is so wide. I just have to remember to keep the pattern sideways as well...


To reopen an old topic and get back to the original question, is there any reason you have to turn your pattern sideways just because you put your fabric on your scroll frame sideways? I guess if your floor or lap stand will only let you put your scroll frame on the stand with the scroll rods at the top and bottom, you would have to turn your pattern sideways. But, if you can rotate your scroll frame 90 degrees in your lap or floor stand, you can still stitch ride side up. You'll just be scrolling left and right, instead of up and down, but you'll probably still have at least one chart page width in your stitching area.

Those of us who like to stitch a whole row across may have to adjust our stitching styles for this type of setup, but I think we can learn to adjust.

Just my thoughts on this, as I think it would be more confusing to many people to try to stitch with the pattern laying sideways.
Patricia
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6:33 am Jun 24, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by cmthmpsn
quote:
Originally posted by Patricia
quote:
Originally posted by JenniferHightree
Hello hello! I actually do this as well, since I havent yet purchased additional dowels for my frame. It works fine for me so far Smile

Thanks for lettimg me know. New for me but not for others. Wish I had of thought of this before I started Ehret. It is so wide. I just have to remember to keep the pattern sideways as well...


To reopen an old topic and get back to the original question, is there any reason you have to turn your pattern sideways just because you put your fabric on your scroll frame sideways? I guess if your floor or lap stand will only let you put your scroll frame on the stand with the scroll rods at the top and bottom, you would have to turn your pattern sideways. But, if you can rotate your scroll frame 90 degrees in your lap or floor stand, you can still stitch ride side up. You'll just be scrolling left and right, instead of up and down, but you'll probably still have at least one chart page width in your stitching area.

Those of us who like to stitch a whole row across may have to adjust our stitching styles for this type of setup, but I think we can learn to adjust.

Just my thoughts on this, as I think it would be more confusing to many people to try to stitch with the pattern laying sideways.


I use a lap stand. If I put the fabric on so I am working working along the top, but really working down the left side of the pattern. If I put on the stand so I would work along the top of the pattern, the doweling would be attached to the stand. that would put pressure on the work. So far I haven't found it confusing. Lap stand is the only stand I use now, unless the work is very wide, than I prop it on the arms of my chair.That was before I discovered "sideways".. I find it interesting all the different ways we work. I have got some good ideas here.
cmthmpsn
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9:28 am Jun 24, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by Patricia
quote:
Originally posted by cmthmpsn
quote:
Originally posted by Patricia
quote:
Originally posted by JenniferHightree
Hello hello! I actually do this as well, since I havent yet purchased additional dowels for my frame. It works fine for me so far Smile

Thanks for lettimg me know. New for me but not for others. Wish I had of thought of this before I started Ehret. It is so wide. I just have to remember to keep the pattern sideways as well...


To reopen an old topic and get back to the original question, is there any reason you have to turn your pattern sideways just because you put your fabric on your scroll frame sideways? I guess if your floor or lap stand will only let you put your scroll frame on the stand with the scroll rods at the top and bottom, you would have to turn your pattern sideways. But, if you can rotate your scroll frame 90 degrees in your lap or floor stand, you can still stitch ride side up. You'll just be scrolling left and right, instead of up and down, but you'll probably still have at least one chart page width in your stitching area.

Those of us who like to stitch a whole row across may have to adjust our stitching styles for this type of setup, but I think we can learn to adjust.

Just my thoughts on this, as I think it would be more confusing to many people to try to stitch with the pattern laying sideways.


I use a lap stand. If I put the fabric on so I am working working along the top, but really working down the left side of the pattern. If I put on the stand so I would work along the top of the pattern, the doweling would be attached to the stand. that would put pressure on the work. So far I haven't found it confusing. Lap stand is the only stand I use now, unless the work is very wide, than I prop it on the arms of my chair.That was before I discovered "sideways".. I find it interesting all the different ways we work. I have got some good ideas here.


I use the EZ Stitch lap stand from American Dream Products http://www.adp-usa.com/product.asp?itemid=617. In order to have the scroll rods at the traditional top and bottom positions, it requires use of an adapter bar. So, for me, if I chose to put my scroll rods on the left and right, I would simply not need to use the adapter bar. Perhaps other types of stands which use a single side clamp could use this type of adapter to turn their work sideways in their stands?

I've also read that some people have a stand which allows them to place their frames ON their stands, and not clamp them IN their stands. Those would also be easy to turn the frame 90 degrees.

Just my thoughts, which may or may not work for everyone or in every situation.[/url]
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