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annamarie23
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4:41 pm Nov 22, 2012

Hello everyone
This may be a really silly question and statement to make but I'm unsure how to start my project. I've always worked with kits so fabric has been cut to the right size and I've had a chart in one piece and I've always stitched from the centre.

I now have my gorgeous Midsummer Eve chart and my 18 count fabric and floss. I need to cut my fabric to size which makes me nervous just incase I cut it too small. I'm going to start gridding. Do you recommend starting my stitching in the top left corner or can I work from the centre - does it matter?

I know it will all be worth it but it's just making that leap with my first project from scratch - it needs to be right.

Thank you for your help all.
Anna Marie (AKA born worrier from the UK)
rifestitch
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9:03 am Nov 28, 2012

I used to start in the middle of designs, too, having learned XS on Teresa Wentzler designs. But when I started my SQ, I did start in the top left corner, and it hasn't been an issue for me; I've done the same with HAED charts, too - anything that is fully stitched and has pages & pages, I prefer to go page by page. Some things make sense to start in the middle, and others from a corner, it doesn't bother me to switch back & forth between projects. SO I guess it is going to be up to your personal preference. Just check and double check your fabric cut before starting! And if there's a long side and a short side, make sure you mark the TOP in some way, so you KNOW you are going the right way, especially if the dimensions are close.

Are you cutting your fabric to size so you can handle it during stitching? If not, just cutting it to have it cut, you don't necessarily have to. I have some pieces cut to size, and others are bigger than I need, but I leave the extra on until I'm done, so I can maneuver them around in my QSnaps or whatever. You might grid BEFORE you cut it down, or at least establish your margins with gridding. I am not a fan of gridding, so try to rely on having done my math properly Smile So far so good!

Let us know how you get on with your new start - I'm anxious to see a picture of it!
Fibreartist
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6:33 pm Nov 28, 2012

You can start in the middle or start in the upper left corner. Some people start in the lower right corner, it doesn't matter where you start. If you want to start in the upper left you have to know how wide your margins are so you can measure in and down to find your starting point.I also start in the middle on my TW and Mirabilia and L&L but in the top left for my HAED, SQ, and GK patterns. Make sure you leave at least 2" extra on every side of your piece of fabric. There is an excellent tool here:

http://www.yarntree.com/java/xstitchcal.htm

that will tell you exactly how big your fabric needs to be. For your aida you will be working with two threads over 1 (aida) and just input the design size which will be noted on your chart/pattern.
Input the numbers and out pops the exact size to make your fabric.

Prepare all your flosses. If you put them in bags or on stitchbows or on bobbins you can cut the lengths as you go, that's what I do I have them on bobbins and I just pull off an amount (about 12"-24") and cut it. I use the longer length when I work over two on 18ct or 28 over 2 or 32 over 2 then I double it and use the loop start.
Right now I am working on a Heaven and Earth Designs(HAED):

http://heavenandearthdesigns.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=160_17&products_id=299

and I'm doing it on 28ct evenweave with one thread over one so I cannot use the loop start and also I am cutting the threads shorter about 12-14" for this one.
If you want to put your threads onto a working card ie loop them with the larks knot onto a card like they have in kits then probably about 18" long is a good length. I think floss length is kind of personal. If it's too long it gets all tangled up and if it's too short you have to start and stop more often.

I kit mine up by getting all the colors together. As I have bobbins I just pull the colors from my set and buy whatever I don't have. I have one or two boxes for the flosses on bobbins. I "audition" the chosen fabric by laying out the floss colors on top of it (this mostly applies to Mirabilia and L&L).
I put everything in a big ziplock bag.
I have about 20 charts kitted up like this, I never buy kits anymore. I am working on about 6 different charts right now-I rotate when I get bored with one, I switch. I do not count my stitches or stitch time.
I make a working photocopy of the chart because I use a yellow hilighter to mark off the next stitches to do then a pink one when I have done the stitches.

As for gridding, I don't grid for L&L, Mirabilia, or TW. If I was to grid for these I would use fishing line or krienik.
I do grid for HAED, SQ, and Golden Kite patterns but as these are solid filled in patterns I grid as I go with a .05mm pencil.



That's all I can think of right now. Have fun.

I hope this helps a bit.
annamarie23
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4:03 pm Nov 29, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by rifestitch
I used to start in the middle of designs, too, having learned XS on Teresa Wentzler designs. But when I started my SQ, I did start in the top left corner, and it hasn't been an issue for me; I've done the same with HAED charts, too - anything that is fully stitched and has pages & pages, I prefer to go page by page. Some things make sense to start in the middle, and others from a corner, it doesn't bother me to switch back & forth between projects. SO I guess it is going to be up to your personal preference. Just check and double check your fabric cut before starting! And if there's a long side and a short side, make sure you mark the TOP in some way, so you KNOW you are going the right way, especially if the dimensions are close.

Are you cutting your fabric to size so you can handle it during stitching? If not, just cutting it to have it cut, you don't necessarily have to. I have some pieces cut to size, and others are bigger than I need, but I leave the extra on until I'm done, so I can maneuver them around in my QSnaps or whatever. You might grid BEFORE you cut it down, or at least establish your margins with gridding. I am not a fan of gridding, so try to rely on having done my math properly Smile So far so good!

Let us know how you get on with your new start - I'm anxious to see a picture of it!


Hi Karen. Thank you so much for replying to my post. I think I just need to find a way that works for me by the sound of it. The picture is beautiful and I have all of my threads etc but it was just a matter of making the leap. I will just make a plan of working out my fabric size and go for it. I will of course post a picture when I've made a start. It's great to hear how other stitchers approach their work so all help/advice greatly appreciated. Thank you again. Smile
annamarie23
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4:25 pm Nov 29, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by Fibreartist
You can start in the middle or start in the upper left corner. Some people start in the lower right corner, it doesn't matter where you start. If you want to start in the upper left you have to know how wide your margins are so you can measure in and down to find your starting point.I also start in the middle on my TW and Mirabilia and L&L but in the top left for my HAED, SQ, and GK patterns. Make sure you leave at least 2" extra on every side of your piece of fabric. There is an excellent tool here:

http://www.yarntree.com/java/xstitchcal.htm

that will tell you exactly how big your fabric needs to be. For your aida you will be working with two threads over 1 (aida) and just input the design size which will be noted on your chart/pattern.
Input the numbers and out pops the exact size to make your fabric.

Prepare all your flosses. If you put them in bags or on stitchbows or on bobbins you can cut the lengths as you go, that's what I do I have them on bobbins and I just pull off an amount (about 12"-24") and cut it. I use the longer length when I work over two on 18ct or 28 over 2 or 32 over 2 then I double it and use the loop start.
Right now I am working on a Heaven and Earth Designs(HAED):

http://heavenandearthdesigns.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=160_17&products_id=299

and I'm doing it on 28ct evenweave with one thread over one so I cannot use the loop start and also I am cutting the threads shorter about 12-14" for this one.
If you want to put your threads onto a working card ie loop them with the larks knot onto a card like they have in kits then probably about 18" long is a good length. I think floss length is kind of personal. If it's too long it gets all tangled up and if it's too short you have to start and stop more often.

I kit mine up by getting all the colors together. As I have bobbins I just pull the colors from my set and buy whatever I don't have. I have one or two boxes for the flosses on bobbins. I "audition" the chosen fabric by laying out the floss colors on top of it (this mostly applies to Mirabilia and L&L).
I put everything in a big ziplock bag.
I have about 20 charts kitted up like this, I never buy kits anymore. I am working on about 6 different charts right now-I rotate when I get bored with one, I switch. I do not count my stitches or stitch time.
I make a working photocopy of the chart because I use a yellow hilighter to mark off the next stitches to do then a pink one when I have done the stitches.

As for gridding, I don't grid for L&L, Mirabilia, or TW. If I was to grid for these I would use fishing line or krienik.
I do grid for HAED, SQ, and Golden Kite patterns but as these are solid filled in patterns I grid as I go with a .05mm pencil.



That's all I can think of right now. Have fun.

I hope this helps a bit.


Hi Gina
Thank you so much for this really helpful advice. You ladies are great! You certainly are busy with all this stitching on the go! I've had a look at the fabric calculator and I've just got another query if you don't mind. Do you include extra for a border on top of the 2" for finishing?

Anna-Marie Smile
rifestitch
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9:11 am Nov 30, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by annamarie23
I've had a look at the fabric calculator and I've just got another query if you don't mind. Do you include extra for a border on top of the 2" for finishing?

Anna-Marie Smile


For big pieces (i.e. NOT ornaments and smalls), I leave a minimum of 3" all around, and in the cases where a standard cut (fat 1/4 or fat 1/2) are more than that but only a couple of inches, I just leave it - no sense cutting 2" off of 27, if that makes sense? I think 3" is kind of the standard, though I have seen a couple of the calculators default at 2" (maybe intended for samplers or the like that don't get matted???). 3" has always been my rule of thumb, with more being better if it's feasible...

If you want a sanity check, post the stitch count and the fabric count you are planning to use, and I'll do the math, too, to make sure we both come up with the same thing; I haven't been wrong yet Smile
annamarie23
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3:05 pm Nov 30, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by rifestitch
quote:
Originally posted by annamarie23
I've had a look at the fabric calculator and I've just got another query if you don't mind. Do you include extra for a border on top of the 2" for finishing?

Anna-Marie Smile


For big pieces (i.e. NOT ornaments and smalls), I leave a minimum of 3" all around, and in the cases where a standard cut (fat 1/4 or fat 1/2) are more than that but only a couple of inches, I just leave it - no sense cutting 2" off of 27, if that makes sense? I think 3" is kind of the standard, though I have seen a couple of the calculators default at 2" (maybe intended for samplers or the like that don't get matted???). 3" has always been my rule of thumb, with more being better if it's feasible...

If you want a sanity check, post the stitch count and the fabric count you are planning to use, and I'll do the math, too, to make sure we both come up with the same thing; I haven't been wrong yet Smile


Hi again. Thank you so much for your help yet again. Well, I've got 2 charts/projects I would like to start. One is the midsummer eve SQ which has a stitch count of 350 wide x 533 long on 18 count. For this one I've got a metre of 18 count aida (39 x 43 inches).
The other is a CSC chart, stitch count 250 wide x 360 high, also to be done on 18 count and for this I have half a metre of aida (21x 39 inches).
I can always get more fabric if there isn't enough for the finished projects but ideally I'd like to use this up.
Thank you again. Anna Marie
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rifestitch
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10:29 am Dec 01, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by annamarie23

Hi again. Thank you so much for your help yet again. Well, I've got 2 charts/projects I would like to start. One is the midsummer eve SQ which has a stitch count of 350 wide x 533 long on 18 count. For this one I've got a metre of 18 count aida (39 x 43 inches).
The other is a CSC chart, stitch count 250 wide x 360 high, also to be done on 18 count and for this I have half a metre of aida (21x 39 inches).
I can always get more fabric if there isn't enough for the finished projects but ideally I'd like to use this up.
Thank you again. Anna Marie
Stitching


Okay, for Midsummer Eve, 350 x 533 on 18ct, the STITCHED area is 19.44" x 29.6". If you add a 3" border all the way around, you need your fabric to be:
25.44" x 35.6" (or round it up to 26 x 36).

For the CSC chart, 259 x 360 on 18ct, the STITCHED area is 13.888" x 20"; with a 3" border all the way around, your fabric needs to be 19.888" x 26" (or rounded up to 20 x 26).

So, both pieces you have are plenty big enough for these designs. IF you don't want to cut it down, and if you are contemplating starting in the top left corner, just measure in 3" and down 3" (or put a standard size Post It note on the corner of the fabric - the lower right corner is the start point) and start there, and cut it down after, or leave it for framing; it helps to have more than 3" if you plan to mat the piece, though as big as these are, it'll add that much more cost to the framing...

Hope this helps!
annamarie23
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3:02 pm Dec 01, 2012

quote:
Originally posted by rifestitch
quote:
Originally posted by annamarie23

Hi again. Thank you so much for your help yet again. Well, I've got 2 charts/projects I would like to start. One is the midsummer eve SQ which has a stitch count of 350 wide x 533 long on 18 count. For this one I've got a metre of 18 count aida (39 x 43 inches).
The other is a CSC chart, stitch count 250 wide x 360 high, also to be done on 18 count and for this I have half a metre of aida (21x 39 inches).
I can always get more fabric if there isn't enough for the finished projects but ideally I'd like to use this up.
Thank you again. Anna Marie
Stitching


Okay, for Midsummer Eve, 350 x 533 on 18ct, the STITCHED area is 19.44" x 29.6". If you add a 3" border all the way around, you need your fabric to be:
25.44" x 35.6" (or round it up to 26 x 36).

For the CSC chart, 259 x 360 on 18ct, the STITCHED area is 13.888" x 20"; with a 3" border all the way around, your fabric needs to be 19.888" x 26" (or rounded up to 20 x 26).

So, both pieces you have are plenty big enough for these designs. IF you don't want to cut it down, and if you are contemplating starting in the top left corner, just measure in 3" and down 3" (or put a standard size Post It note on the corner of the fabric - the lower right corner is the start point) and start there, and cut it down after, or leave it for framing; it helps to have more than 3" if you plan to mat the piece, though as big as these are, it'll add that much more cost to the framing...

Hope this helps!


Thank you so much. I can't thank you enough for your help. I got exactly the same measurement for the SQ fabric and 21 x 27 inches for the CSC. I feel much happier about starting the projects so will be gridding tomorrow and start stitching. So excited but nervous at the same time about that first stitch.
Happy stitching too and thank you again.
Anna-Marie x
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