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The mystery of the shorter thread...


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Fabala
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2:00 pm Nov 30, 2006

Lots of websites sell laying tools... especially the "old school" shops (mostly across the pond)
Alanna
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2:09 pm Nov 30, 2006

Yes, I see what you mean, although it all seems like a lot of extra fuss to me (except for the ones that actually fit onto your finger and can therefore be incorporated into the movement of your stitching hand). No, I think I'll stick with training!
Fabala
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2:13 pm Nov 30, 2006

I've started a craze... Very Happy
Alanna
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2:14 pm Nov 30, 2006

Laughing
Sally
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11:37 pm Jan 06, 2007

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Originally posted by Alanna
I've done quite a few projects now, I've worked with different threads, used different fabrics, even changed technique on occasion, but when I get to the end of each length of thread one is always always shorter than the other! Always by at least 1cm and up to 5 or 6cms. Does anybody have an explanation for this or am I really a freak of nature? Wink


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Alanna, I've been stitching for at least 25 years now and I would have the same problem with the mysterious one long and one short thread. Then I found a website with information written by a professional stitcher and this was her suggestion, which I use, and in most cases the mystery is solved.
When you cut your length of thread, hold one end between your thumb and forefinger with about a quarter of an inch showing above your thumb. With the other hand, tap, tap, tap on the end of the thread. One end will untwist slightly (I call it blossoming), and when you tap, tap, tap the other end it won't do this, or may do it a lot less than the other end. Do the same thing to the other strand. Put the two 'blossomed' ends together and when you thread your needle, be sure this end goes through the material first. I don't know why this works, but in most cases it does.
I also stitch doing the railroading, or training, and find it makes a beautiful stitchery without worrying about twisted and uneven threads.
Good luck with your stitching.
Sally in Oklahoma
Alanna
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10:27 am Jan 15, 2007

Gee, sounds complicated Sally, I'm going to have to read that again very slowly and have my needle in my hand as I do it or I'll never make it! Me and the abstract world have a very special relationship! Wink
Hibrida
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7:22 pm Mar 31, 2007

Fabala specified how to avoid the thread creeping. It should work every time.

I'll give my guess for the "why?" I believe it's most likely to occure when one strand is "with-the-grain-of-spinning" and the other strand is "against-the-grain-of-spinning". The against-the-grain end up shorter. If one begins with a loop start, the legs always have contrasting grain.

I came up with this unproven theory to explain why a single strand used double and begun with a waste-away knot would fray about an inch away from the needle's eye and on only one strand, not equally on both. With-the-grain is less abraisive is basic and might be the answer.

Hibrida

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It doesnt happen to me anymore since I started "training" my threads. Basically, on the down stitch before you put the needle into the hole, you put it between the threads.
Fabala
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2:08 pm Apr 01, 2007

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Originally posted by Hibrida
Fabala specified how to avoid the thread creeping. It should work every time.

I'll give my guess for the "why?" I believe it's most likely to occure when one strand is "with-the-grain-of-spinning" and the other strand is "against-the-grain-of-spinning". The against-the-grain end up shorter. If one begins with a loop start, the legs always have contrasting grain.

I came up with this unproven theory to explain why a single strand used double and begun with a waste-away knot would fray about an inch away from the needle's eye and on only one strand, not equally on both. With-the-grain is less abraisive is basic and might be the answer.

Hibrida

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Originally posted by Fabala
It doesnt happen to me anymore since I started "training" my threads. Basically, on the down stitch before you put the needle into the hole, you put it between the threads.



Wow... you are just so much smarter than me. I knew there was a reason, just couldnt articulate it. Rolling Eyes
Alanna
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1:46 am Apr 09, 2007

Hibrida gets the award for cross stitch theory in practise! Idea
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